Stuff by me:

My TAFF Report
An account of my first visit to the USA and of my experiences at the 1984 Worldcon

A history of SF fandom in the UK, 1930-1980

British Fanzine Bibliography
A bibliography of British SF fanzines, as researched and compiled by Peter Roberts, Vince Clarke, and me.


9 April 2016

Earlier today since I was riding the Jubilee Line on the London Underground anyway, I stepped off at Canary Wharf and took the following photo on the platform:

Why did I do this? Well yesterday I got to see the first trailer for the movie STAR WARS: ROGUE ONE, which will be released in December. One scene in that trailer takes place inside what is presumably the Death Star. However, it was instantly recognizable to me (and many others) as Canary Wharf. Below are two stills from that trailer so you can see for yourself:

In the second picture note in particular the way they've concealed the hanging signs and the structures they've devised to drop over the stone seats with the big underground signs. These are particularly clever because as well as doing their job of concealing they also fit in with the general deaign aesthetic of that universe, too.

So now I can claim to have visited a Star Wars set.

20 March 2016

It seems to me that Marvel missed a trick by not turning the Kree-Skrull War into a trilogy, because as it stands it could greatly benefit from both a prelude volume and a follow-up volume. The case for the former is simple and the contents obvious. When the Kree-Skrull War was written in 1971 (45 years ago, remember) the Marvel universe was barely a decade old and readers could be assumed to have a reasonable grasp of it. This is not such a safe assumption to make now that universe is closing in on 60 years old. So a volume that includes the salient tales would be very helpful for those not steeped in that history. I give you:

Vol 1 - The Road to Kree-Skrull War:

THOR #146 - #149: The first four Inhumans back-ups
AMAZING ADVENTURES #5 - #8: the Inhumans stories

These are, as I say, obvious. In fact it's a bit surprising this volume doesn't already exist. These are the stories that set up the Kree-Skrull War and they also introduce new readers to the Kree, the Skrulls, their rivalry, the Sentry, Captain Marvel, Ronan, Carol Danvers, the Super Skrull, and the Inhumans. The AMAZING ADVENTURES stories are also a direct prequel to Kree-Skrull War and feed into it. (For reasons discussed later, AMAZING ADVENTURES #9 & 10 should definitely *not* be included.)

Because Kree-Skrull War wasn't originally conceived as a story to be collected in a single volume, it ends untidily with the fate of Clint Barton still in question. So, naturally, any 'aftermath' collection would have to start with the following tale in AVENGERS #98 - 100 in order to resolve this. But what else would make up such a volume? Here's my suggestion:

Vol 3 - Kree-Skrull War: Aftermath:

AVENGERS #98 - 100

The first ILLUMINATI selection is the one shot done for 'Road to Civil War' that shows the formation of the group in response to Kree-Skrull War; the second covers their attempt to warn off the Skrulls. The FANTASTIC FOUR ANNUAL features the war continuing on the moon by means of single combat between a Kree and a Skrull and also features the wedding of Black Bolt and Medusa. The Watcher declares a tie and hopes, naively, that this is now the end of the war. The X-MEN ANNUAL is the one selection here that might have people scratching their heads but it is in fact the *perfect* epilogue to the saga. In Kree-Skrull War, the Supreme Intelligence makes a big deal of the fact that both Kree and Skrulls are evolutionary dead ends who can develop no further. The final page of the X-MEN ANNUAL reveals why this is so, picking up that thread and so tying the whole thing together.

The only possible addition to the contents for this volume I might make is the addition, between the annuals, of the sequence from FANTASTIC FOUR #257 (and 2 pages from the previous issue) showing the destruction of the Kree homeworld and the death of Princess Anelle.

Which brings us to the Inhumans. When the Inhumans movie comes out a few years from now Marvel will undoubtedly release a pile of Inhumans comics collections to complement it. This is good, except there's a problem with the Inhumans run from AMAZING ADVENTURES as it stands, which is supposed to lead into AVENGERS #95. Marvel acknowledged this at the time, issue #10 finishing: "..a tale now on sale in the unlikely, uncanny pages of AVENGERS #95! We'll fill in the rough gaps between those two sagas at some near-future date!"

This never happened, and now never will, with the result that when these tales are collected with AVENGERS #95 - as they have been and should be - it makes for a very unsatisfactory reading experience. Black Bolt's young companion Joey is abducted in AMAZING ADVENTURES #10 yet is by his side in AVENGERS #95. Also, what happened to Medusa, Gorgon & Karnak? If you move AVENGERS #95 so that it occurs before AMAZING ADVENTURES #9 & 10 rather than after them these problems go away. Now it reads so that it's seeing Triton in AVENGERS #95 rather than Medusa in AMAZING ADVENTURES #9 that restores Black Bolt's memory, and when he leaves Attilan at the end of AVENGERS #95 it's to retrieve the trio he now knows is looking for him. The only problem this reordering creates is that we now don't know how Black Bolt got his costume back. But then we don't need to - these things are regularly handwaved away as something that happened between issues. AMAZING ADVENTURES #9 & 10 now require a few minor changes to dialogue and captions to smooth over the reordering, but I bellieve this is worth doing. (Personally I'd also drop the page in #10 where Joey gets abducted, too.) There are three pages needing this in #9, to whit:

Before on page 8:

After on page 8:

Before on page 11:
After on page 11:

Before on page 18:

After on page 18:

There are also only two pages requiring minor alterations in wording in #10, thus:

Before on page 4:

After on page 4:

Before on page 16:

After on page 16:

19 March 2016

So I traded in my collection of Frank Miller Daredevils for the recently published deluxe hardback collection of same and noticed a surprising omission: WHAT IF? #35. The story follows on from DAREDEVIL #181 and is titled 'What If Elektra Had Lived?'. It's splash page is even a witty call back to the splash page in that issue. I can only imagine Marvel believes it shouldn't be included because it's tonally wrong for the collection, but I disagree. In fact I'd run it directly between issues #181 and #182, which is where it both fits and belongs. When these issues are read that way, as I recently reread them, its presence deepens and helps explain Matt Murdock's breakdown in #182. Of course, I also usually reread this sequence with Miller's AMAZING SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL #15 slotted in before DAREDEVIL #181, since then we see how the Punisher ended up in prison alongside Bullseye. Given that the second season of the Netflix Daredevil series dropped today, featuring both Elektra and the Punisher, it occurs to me that a useful collection to offer now would consist of the following:

DAREDEVIL #168 - first Elektra
WHAT IF? #35
DAREDEVIL #182 - #184

Why would Marvel offer such a collection when they've so recently published their (almost) complete Frank Miller DAREDEVIL? Well, they wouldn't. At least not as a printed collection. But what about a digital one? Seems to me that any number of collections could be assembled to tie-in with specific events that only come together in digital form. Many of Marvel's Big Events could benefit from a 'Road To' collection (see above). If properly curated by someone who knows their Marvel comics history these could be both transient *and* profitable.

16 March 2015

Occasionally, I'll read something that makes me do a double take. As a long time SF fanzine fan, these comic panels did that for me:

ATOM #1 (Dec'97): Superhero or fanartist?

Then there's this one:

FLASH #218 (Oct/Nov'72): Hal Jordan is a fanzine fan?

And this one:

ARCHER & ARMSTRONG #11 (Jun'93): 80.000+ streets in London, and he chooses that one?

16 March 2014

While THEN: THE ARCHIVE has had new material added on a fairly regular basis, it's been a while since I last updated this part of my site. Four years, in fact. This blog is where I post the occasional comics-related post. Like this one.

In the mighty effort he has put in to securing the photo collections of old SF fans before they get lost, as all too many have, my buddy Peter Weston has also hoovered up quite a few pictures from the early days of US fandom. Since our interests lie mainly with the history of UK fandom we haven't really made much use of these as yet. I was looking through them again earlier and thought comics fans might get a kick out of the two below, which come from the collection of the late E.J. 'Ted' Carnell. First there's this one, presumably taken in New York:

L-to-R: Jack Darrow, Julius Schwartz, unknown, Don Wollheim, Conrad Ruppert

And then there's this one (clean up by David Price):

Superman's Julius Schwartz, Edmond Hamilton, & Mort Weisinger

close-up of newspaper

Both are undated, and not being a fashion expert I don't know if they date from the 1930s or the 1940s, though I'd guess the latter. Can anyone confirm this? Do Weisinger's white-topped shoes tell us anything? It might be possible to date the second one very accurately if the edition of the newspaper Weisinger is holding could be identified. A long shot, but stranger things have happened.

UPDATE: The guy on the far left of the first photo has been identified to me as Jack Darrow, and on going through Ted's photos again I found one of Ruppert and so can positively ID him as the guy on the far right. I also found another photo with Julie Schwartz in it I'd somehow missed. Since he has more hair in this one, I'm guessing this is the earliest of the three. According to the caption, the photo was taken outside the offices of THRILLING WONDER in July 1937:

L-to-R rear: Jack Williamson, L. Sprague de Camp, Dr. John Clark, Frank Belknap Long, Mort Weisinger,
Edmond Hamilton, Otis Adelbert Kline... L-to-R front: Otto Binder, Manly Wade Wellman, Julius Schwartz

UPDATE 2: Going through J Michael Rosenblum's photos - as supplied by his son Howard - while looking for something else entirely I came across yet another photo of Schwartz from, I'm guessing, the early 1940s.

L-to-R: Oswald Train, Lloyd Eshbach, Julius Schwartz

Other early photos of American SF pros and fans can be found elsewhere on this site:

16 January 2010

At some point, someone will tell the story of the final days of the Third Reich in the Marvel Universe. Whether they will take the time and trouble to research what has already been established over the years for that period is another matter. Here, in 13 pages taken from a bunch of different comics is what we know to date. If you know of something significant I've missed please let me know.

16 January 2010

With the move to a new website I figured it was time to move my very occasional blog here, too. Previously called FRIDGE MAGNET - a name made up on the spur of the moment when I first had something I wanted to post - I'm taking this opportunity to retitle it. I found the new name in one of my old apazines along with an explanation of why it would be a good one for me to use. I agreed with my earlier self, so here it is. Why BRASH NEON should be appropriate is left as an exercise for the reader.


8 March 2009 * link

I've been a Londoner more than half my life now and in that time I've gotten to know the city pretty well, but there are still....


1) When flying in from the US, airliners routinely land on the River Thames:

2) Charing Cross has cobbled streets, medieval houses, and is surrounded by woods:

3) Despite Ireland, the Irish Sea, Wales, and a fair chunk of England lying between them, you can smell the Atlantic from the docks:

Incidentally, if you're wondering how the character shown covered ten miles in three minutes, well being a vampire he did it by turning into a bat and flying there.

Images copyright DC Comics and Marvel Comics. More geographical insights as I uncover them.

6 April 2007 * link

This is, I suppose, a blog. I had no intention of ever starting one, honest. It all began when someone asked see this illo by Neil (see item below), who gave permission to post it saying he'd quite like to see it again himself. I've had a website for years, though I rarely update it, so I had somewhere to post it. Only it didn't seem right to just post it bare without at least a little bit of explanatory text to provide context. Then, of course, it struck me that the combined illo'n'text really needed to be embedded in some sort of larger format rather than just standing alone. Fire up a text editor, type out some vanilla HTML, and in not much time at all there was the skeleton of this page. Having created it it seemed a shame not to add in a sidebar with a few links and, well, here we are.

This is somewhere to post the occasional thing I want to point others to. I don't see it as something I'll be adding posts to very often, but if I do I'll probably spruce up the design a bit.


A few days ago, in a comment thread on the Nielsen Hayden's MAKING LIGHT, Neil Gaiman wrote that:

I'm pretty sure my first published illustration was a Watchmen gag in an Avedon Carol fanzine, unless my memory has gone...
This caught my attention because:
Neil -- That very illo has been pinned to my office notice board - about a foot from where I'm sitting - for years. You dated it, too - 29/9/86. I used to keep a diary back then, but a quick look at the appropriate page has no mention of you at all. Seems I spent the day visiting various museums with Stu Shiffman, over from the US. We used to see you pretty often back then so I suppose we could've all met up at a pub afterwards. Strange that my diary doesn't mention it if we did, though. The thing is, I was there when you drew that picture, and it was either in a pub or at a con. The nearest entry I can find that mentions you is a week earlier at UKCAC '86, the only comics con Avedon and I ever attended. Perhaps you drew it there and misdated it? Curious.
Rereading my diary from that period for the first time since I wrote the entries, that was quite a socially busy and interesting few weeks. Much more hectic than the more sedate social life I enjoy these days. Neil replied to my comment thus:
Rob -- I remember meeting Stu with you, so my guess is that it was done in the pub that evening. I'm pretty sure I didn't do it at UKCAC. I interviewed Alan and Dave about Watchmen there, though. In a suit, as befitting the occasion.
This is probably what happened, and when the drawing was done. Anyway, one of those reading the thread asked to see the cartoon, Neil was happy for it to be posted, so here it is, two decades after it was drawn. And it occurs to me that if it gets linked to it will be seen by many more people than the maybe couple of hundred who saw it in its original fanzine appearance.


Avedon Carol * Patrick & Teresa Nielsen Hayden * Roz Kaveney * Neil Gaiman *